From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ? Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 00:04:19 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <872169864327910446.796089rmhost.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <1jue77mrlbkor$.1iuz25va18fvm$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: eKwzOZEoYNmUIKtjz8NWow.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:20397 Date: 2011-05-25T00:04:19+02:00 List-Id: Le Tue, 24 May 2011 09:25:38 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov = a =C3=A9crit: > There are many difficulties on that path. When people are demanding = > sockets > they forget that beyond TCP/IP and UDP there is a lot of other stuff > communicated over sockets This can be abstracted down. The purpose of different protocols is not t= o = make things more complex, but to provide different level of reliability,= = which make some like streams and some others not. Unlike Unicode encodin= g = introduced in Ada 2012, the protocols list is not closed, however, TCP/I= P = and UDP/IP are still the widely used. This could be compared to the topi= c = old character code pages : there was many, but Ada still supported the = most widely used one beyond pure ANSI : ISO 8859-1. There may be no worr= y = to support TCP/IP and UDP/IP above any others, the same way. A question : what is the state of the use of IP based protocols in the = embedded-boards area ? I use to see references to TCP and UDP usages in = = some embedded stuffs, but I am not mastering anything in that area=E2=80= =A6 unlike = many others here. -- = Si les chats miaulent et font autant de vocalises bizarres, c=E2=80=99es= t pas pour = les chiens. =E2=80=9C c++; /* this makes c bigger but returns the old value */ =E2=80= =9D [Anonymous]