From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ? Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 22:10:18 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <872169864327910446.796089rmhost.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4ddb5bd7$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4ddb81b8$0$7628$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <87aaeban8a.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: eKwzOZEoYNmUIKtjz8NWow.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19422 Date: 2011-05-24T22:10:18+02:00 List-Id: Le Tue, 24 May 2011 21:54:13 +0200, Ludovic Brenta = a =C3=A9crit: > Wrong. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Platform/POSIX say= s: > > "POSIX.5 is an IEEE (IEEE Standard 1003.5b-1996) and ISO (ISO/IEC > 14519:2001) standard defining an Ada interface to the POSIX system > calls." Yes. I did not say there is not standard POSIX Ada, I instead said POSIX= = Ada is not part of the Ada standard. > Oh, and I think I did mention GNAT.Sockets. So what are people > complaining about, again? GNAT specific, that's a big enough point (I will have to check it : I'm = = also afraid this may make use of some GNAT internals). As Jean-Pierre = underlined in a message in this same thread, maintaining a standard is n= ot = the same as adding a vendor specific feature when this pleased this vend= or = or single person. GNAT.Sockets, is vendor specific. I don't want the use= = of Sockets in Ada source, to be an advertising for GNAT, I would prefer = it = to be an advertising for Ada as a language (while the reason is not abou= t = advertising, but about a pressing requirement in the real world), be it = = GNAT (which I still enjoy, of course), Aonix, Janus, and others. If you = = use GNAT specific stuff, this is not Ada anymore, this GNAT (there is no= = legitimate way to reduce Ada to GNAT, whatever how much good GNAT is). -- = Si les chats miaulent et font autant de vocalises bizarres, c=E2=80=99es= t pas pour = les chiens. =E2=80=9C c++; /* this makes c bigger but returns the old value */ =E2=80= =9D [Anonymous]