From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3ed4c57426e16006 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.201.147.68.MISMATCH!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GtkAda using Glade Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:50:34 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <15ff2ec1-5a2b-4d24-8aab-cf7985b6374f@t19g2000yql.googlegroups.com> <2e496d2c-f12f-4961-981b-2162fdf1ce1e@k3g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <1vakqa4gwjxry$.9j72428ewqp0.dlg@40tude.net> <1npn5zwqehpsz.1lqame09nycx1.dlg@40tude.net> <96992149-4b0b-4de3-b928-545baa8da5ad@y12g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: qC3cnmRsgFdrAp+3rMXg1Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19338 Date: 2011-05-20T11:50:34+02:00 List-Id: Le Fri, 20 May 2011 09:25:15 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov = a =C3=A9crit: >>> Unfortunately the reality is that the GUI and the functional part of= = >>> the >>> program are tightly interwoven. Therefore you need to be in full = >>> control of >>> both and want to shape the program's structure as you want for the = >>> sake of >>> clear design and maintainability (Ada's strengths). Any automaticall= y >>> generated code is just an obstacle here. >>> >>> Sorry for sounding daemon's voice again. (:-)) >> >> I hope the smiley also applies to the last paragraph as well, and tha= t >> you are joking by saying "any automatically generated code is just an= >> obstacle here"... > > I am not. BTW, this is one of the arguments against Ada generics. They= > wandered to far into the realm of "generated" code. > > The point is simple. If the meta language is good, the object language= is > irrelevant. Switch to the former. If you cannot, no reason to use it a= t > all. You could publish an online paper, where you could list and explain all = = the grievances your suggest against Ada's generics. May be you already d= id = ? If so, I would welcome a link. -- = Si les chats miaulent et font autant de vocalises bizarres, c=E2=80=99es= t pas pour = les chiens. =E2=80=9C c++; /* this makes c bigger but returns the old value */ =E2=80= =9D [Anonymous]