From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_LOCAL_HEX, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f15b862e11b575a4 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Vinzent Hoefler" <0439279208b62c95f1880bf0f8776eeb@t-domaingrabbing.de> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Air traffic control system in Java Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:15:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4d6ffe16$0$17930$a8266bb1@postbox2.readnews.com> <835e91b1-50f7-4b20-beaf-5b5afcc66cc5@r4g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <4d701d79$0$17918$a8266bb1@postbox2.readnews.com> <4d711c62$0$27719$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <4d712326$0$27719$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <4d712b6a$0$17204$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <0b3daa32-8571-4a7f-a96f-cd876f4c4127@d12g2000prj.googlegroups.com> <4d712e64$0$17204$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <1l023eg1ilrni.xwge3tgrabol$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net KOxcAFK8pt++okoCZLjtIgdVR9E6zNX5cJHD5QYsepPM/U50lW Cancel-Lock: sha1:IJxA2RFwsFa9NkIcRCJFzXyFFBs= User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (Win32) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17866 Date: 2011-03-05T06:15:10+01:00 List-Id: Randy Brukardt wrote: > And the work to define a standard GUI to the level required for the Ada > standard would be immense, especially in order to prevent tying it to any > underlying target. (We'd want it to work on both Windows and Linux for > instance, without requiring either of them.) And I don't see anyone really > stepping up to do that work. The only languages I know with a built-in GUI (Oberon and Smalltalk) can be called "failed" in that respect (there are probably more, but I can't know them all). Considering what I regularly read in the appropriate newsgroups, even a big library like the VCL of Delphi is not nearly enough to satisfy its users, there are a lot of add-ons, third party tools and hacks to get what they want (and Delphi is even just Windows-only, so we're not even talking problems of cross-platform GUI). So if someone expects such a beast can be standardized at all, I'd call him overly optimistic at least. Vinzent. -- A C program is like a fast dance on a newly waxed dance floor by people carrying razors. -- Waldi Ravens