From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,4ffc4a297a9f10e0 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!195.208.113.2.MISMATCH!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Thoughts on AdaCore maintaining GCC-incompatible GNAT sources Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:46:03 +0100 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <62c8c6c1-6578-4e61-b68a-2c192f34aa94@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <1456fbc5-f951-4721-8575-0b73a492f275@r29g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: Ytbm1wnfaYrLLNPp/2uoww.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.00 (Win32) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17556 Date: 2011-01-20T19:46:03+01:00 List-Id: Le Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:47:34 +0100, J-P. Rosen a =C3=A9= crit: > Le 20/01/2011 15:50, Yannick Duch=C3=AAne (Hibou57) a =C3=A9crit : >> GNAT Pro ? What a joke, where did they see GNAT Pro was ever promoted= as >> libre ? > GNAT Pro is distributed under the GMGPL license. Nothing would prevent= > anybody to redistribute GNAT Pro. But no Gnat PRO user is interested i= n > doing that. (TBH, there is some FUD from AdaCore that discourage peopl= e > from doing it). But there is a libre.adacore.com, so this drove me to suppose some kind = of = distinction is made. May be you know the exact licensing terms, and = clients know these, for sure, and this may be part of this license, OK. = = However as a =E2=80=9Cpublic=E2=80=9D user, I've never seen any claim fr= om AdaCore about = GNAT Pro being libre. That was the reason why I reacted this way. If really clients are allowed to re-distribute, this is indeed surprisin= g, = I could never believe this could be really possible: users/clients allow= ed = to redistribute and none doing so. May be they feel that's better to not= = brake AdaCore business (I am talking about earnings) so that they are = assured of a regular and good job done at maintaining the compiler ? (I = = would not expect it from the =E2=80=9Ccrowd=E2=80=9D, but they must be s= ome kind of = special users I believe). That said, do you think they could be some provision for the suggestion = = made, that is, some funding from GNAT GPL users to fix some bugs in the = = compiler (I would be very happy to see the one about synchronized = interface fixed). Some room for a special contract ? Obviously, AdaCore = = could not receive all individual request from each; but we could make so= me = collectively after some collegiate decisions. P.S. This must not be easy for AdaCore too I believe (I see no way to = easily handle commercial + GPL). May be these FUD are the only way they = = could figure to protect it=E2=80=A6 just hope these FUD are not too much= = disturbing/nasty for their clients (ouch). -- = Si les chats miaulent et font autant de vocalises bizarres, c=E2=80=99es= t pas pour = les chiens. =E2=80=9CI am fluent in ASCII=E2=80=9D [Warren 2010]