From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,57c80c1c1b1f8820 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.201.147.68.MISMATCH!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: =?utf-8?B?Q29tcGFyaXNvbiA6IEFkYSBhbmQgVU1MIChjb21wYXJpc29u4oCmIGluZGU=?= =?utf-8?B?ZWQp?= Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:01:34 +0100 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gHYtk+mhCrTAX6LNXybaBQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.63 (Win32) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:15985 Date: 2010-10-31T09:01:34+01:00 List-Id: Le Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:11:35 +0100, Simon Wright a = = =C3=A9crit: > "Yannick Duch=C3=AAne (Hibou57)" writes: > >> Back to a famous topic of OO with Ada vs OO with other languages; jus= t >> that here, let's replace =E2=80=9Cother languages=E2=80=9D by UML. > > I've just looked at the UML 2.0 Superstructure Specification 05-07-04,= > and in section 7.3.6, Operation, under Semantics (on page 117 of 709!)= You're brave > it says > > "An operation may be redefined in a specialization of the featured > classifier. This redefinition may specialize the types of the owned > parameters, add new preconditions or postconditions, add new raised > exceptions, or otherwise refine the specification of the operation."= =E2=80=9COwned parameters=E2=80=9D it says so, and the receiver is not p= art of owned = parameters. So the flaw is unavoidable. I'm afraid many other flaw are = hidden the same way (at least, this does not witness for something good)= . Does HOOD include diagrams for State Machines, Collaborations and = Scenarios ? That is mainly what is of interest to me in UML (that is not= = just for class diagrams which does not offer anything useful compared to= = source, but class diagrams are just required to define elements of other= = diagrams). If someone can confirms HOOD has something similar, I may say= = its time now to look at HOOD a bit also (the modeling language, not the = = method). -- = Si les chats miaulent et font autant de vocalises bizarres, c=E2=80=99es= t pas pour = les chiens.