From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,23c0de5a42cf667e X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Yannick_Duch=EAne_=28Hibou57=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT packages in Linux distributions Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 21:21:12 +0200 Organization: Ada At Home Message-ID: References: <87mxw9x7no.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <16bz9kvbqa8y9$.155ntpwpwl29d.dlg@40tude.net> <4be97bea$0$2966$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: EFpv4lnpRyjbMhM0po550g.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.53 (Win32) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11525 Date: 2010-05-11T21:21:12+02:00 List-Id: Le Tue, 11 May 2010 18:45:14 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov = a =E9crit: > A proof of correctness cannot be run-time. Incorrectness need no proof= . I guess you will not like it, however, here is my disclaimer : there may= = be some levels of correctness. A well written Eiffel application is more near to be correct than let sa= y = an XXXXX (I prefer to not give any names) one. Yes, it will not be 100% logically-proven. That said, isn't let say 40% = = trustable better than 0% or even less ? Even SPARK has different levels of checking (at least two ones) Obviously, Eiffel is not a theorem prover, while it still comes with a = philosophy. P.S. Don't be afraid, you next plane or train will not be Eiffel powered= = anyway, there is no need to be afraid about its lacks, compared to SPARK= , = which is not a tiny thing. -- = pragma Asset ? Is that true ? Waaww... great