From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,23c0de5a42cf667e X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT packages in Linux distributions Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 23:28:26 +0200 Organization: Ada At Home Message-ID: References: <87mxw9x7no.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lKoz3GTQNF5SAmMbsOQ/Zg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.53 (Win32) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11428 Date: 2010-05-09T23:28:26+02:00 List-Id: Le Sun, 09 May 2010 21:36:58 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov = a =C3=A9crit: > Hmm, that would make sense only for bugs related to the compiler > environment, packaging etc. If the bug is a compiler problem, there is= no > chance it can be fixed unless somebody is working on the compiler itse= lf. > For example, there is a bug in assignment of controlled objects. It = > crashes I was to report some bugs as well about GNAT (there was some about = protected types, that's why your words make me though about it, however,= = there some others as well), and gave up to send bug reports when I've = learned from people using the Pro version those bugs were already fixed = = for long. Yes, it seems obvious the differences between GNAT Pro and GNAT GPL are = = not only a matter of support (or lack of support) or of license = (commercial application allowed vs disallowed) : it seems these are two = = different compilers. > So, when (if) GNAT GPL 2010 come, nothing will sufficiently change for= = > FSF? > That is very disappointing. I hoped to jump off the GPL track (not = > because > of the license issue). That's why I like to hear Randy talking about its compiler and that's wh= y = I oftenly ask questions about this and that related to Ada compilers in = = the large. I would like to switch to another one... unfortunately, being= = jobless for too long, even something as cheap as Janus Ada Compiler is n= ot = accessible to me (and does not target BSD or UNIX-like too, that's anoth= er = matter). I would not want to talk about things I'm not aware of, any way, what I = am = thinking about it (just personal beliefs) : obviously, an Ada compiler i= s = lot of work, and anybody work better when receiving something in return = = which makes his/her life easier (what ever could say GPL advocates about= = it). I believe the GPL version is just far to be a priority for AdaCore = = (as long as I refer to some bugs I have talked about and for which I get= = an answer of the form =E2=80=9CHey, this is fixed for long in GNAT Pro=E2= =80=9D). AdaCore (or its ancestor) was initially mandated (is that the good word = ?) = to create a GPL Ada 95 compiler based on the GCC compiler chain (this wa= s = part of the requirements), to help ensure some good place for the Ada = technology, to promote the language and its philosophy. This contract wa= s = largely fulfilled by AdaCore or its ancestor and its obligations about i= t = has ended. AdaCore has no obligations at all concerning Ada 2005 nor any= = future Ada 2015 (or 2012... I don't know). Please, note the above are personal beliefs. P.S. What you are pointing about is not Fedora or UNIX-like specific, th= is = is the same with the Windows version, this is mostly specific to the GPL= = version. P.P.S. I wonder why, being an owner of a GNAT Pro license, you need the = = GPL version ? You will get just less with the GPL version. -- = No-no, this isn't an oops ...or I hope (TM) - Don't blame me... I'm just= = not lucky