From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,af0c6ea85f3ed92d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.231.202 with SMTP id ti10mr9348292pbc.5.1329569875659; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:57:55 -0800 (PST) Path: wr5ni39582pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Arbitrary Sandbox Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:57:54 +0100 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <2aaee0a4-e820-4a75-bbaf-d9d09c366d2c@f5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4da4bf75-e6c9-4c17-9072-ab6f533ed93f@vd8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <203d63cf-42a9-49ef-82cd-943d77b5e438@c21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <193cr8xol0ysi.14p4cp2yxnb0r$.dlg@40tude.net> <1jleu301thnd3$.s23priwn3ajb$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: MTdcG0xgStmNNXcOxIOGeA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-02-18T13:57:54+01:00 List-Id: Le Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:31:42 +0100, Dmitry A. Kazakov = a =C3=A9crit: >>>> You know; I always wondered why they (developers, and OS designers)= >>>> didn't take advantage of segments. >>> >>> Ineffective, complicated, generally useless? >> Why? > > Presumably because of lack of address order. Comparing driver developi= ng > for PDP-11/RSX-11 vs. 80286/Windows/DOS. The former was immensely = > simpler, > safer and also more effective (you could pass a buffer from the proces= s > space to the driver). The latter was a pure horror. Segments can share physical addresses (since the i286), and there is = memory mapped IO ports (at least since the i386). -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity