From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5bcc293dc5642650 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.11.199 with SMTP id s7mr23679487pbb.5.1318821812220; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Path: d5ni19546pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why no Ada.Wide_Directories? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:23:30 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <9937871.172.1318575525468.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prib32> <418b8140-fafb-442f-b91c-e22cc47f8adb@y22g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1gzuyf8eg0o0k.7yo8q1lqfiyr.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: EIkrgkq2ac6QsYU5JXtqkg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.51 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:13990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2011-10-17T05:23:30+02:00 List-Id: Le Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:15:11 +0200, Peter C. Chapin = a =C3=A9crit: > It's not that silly. > > In order to talk sensibly about files the standard needs to define a = > model of "file" and, in this case even "file system." This needs to be= a = > model that will be applicable to the widest range of platforms possibl= e. = > Such is the nature of a standard. Thus the standard model of "file" an= d = > "file system" will be a simplified abstraction of the real thing on an= y = > particular system. A portable program can only make use of that = > simplified abstraction if it expects to remain portable. > [etc] You are going too far, turning the matter into something it was not. Aft= er = that, your conclusions can be just wrong or can just apply to other = matters, but the actual. It was just about character set, and that model exist in Ada (in a = non=E2=80=91homogeneous way, which seems a failure). > What happens when such a program tries to create files with such names= = > on a system that doesn't support them? What about Text I/O then ? =E2=80=9CSurprisingly=E2=80=9D, no body compl= ained. -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [Ep= igrams on = Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale University] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [Idem] Java: Write once, Never revisit