From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c4cb2c432feebd9d X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,c4cb2c432feebd9d X-Google-Thread: 101deb,15c6ed4b761968e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid1094ba,gid101deb,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!atl-c05.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!indigo.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!teal.octanews.net!feed.news.qwest.net!mpls-nntp-01.inet.qwest.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Tom Linden" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.pl1 Subject: Re: Ada vs Fortran for scientific applications Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:53:04 -0700 Organization: Kednos Message-ID: References: <0ugu4e.4i7.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> <%P_cg.155733$eR6.26337@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <6H9dg.10258$S7.9150@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <1hfv5wb.1x4ab1tbdzk7eN%nospam@see.signature> <2006052509454116807-gsande@worldnetattnet> <1kzktalo9krea$.z8n9wev45xct$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: individual.net p9J1rif2R09LZirM/uiRogpUdM2Y3EBZ5hxXwU2us1DX3orC/h User-Agent: Opera Mail(BETA2)/9.00 (Win32) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5609 comp.lang.fortran:11930 comp.lang.pl1:1977 Date: 2006-07-11T06:53:04-07:00 List-Id: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:46:45 -0700, wrote: > > "robin" wrote in message > news:z9Dsg.2740$tE5.2374@news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> >> Compilers can check for uninitialized variables during compilation. >> > True. In fact, Ada compilers issue a warning for any variable > that is used before a value is assigned to it. If a parameter is > included in a method (function/procedure/subroutine) and never > referenced, a warning is issued. Sometimes the pragma > Normalize_Scalars is useful. Often, the correct design is to > leave variables uninitialized until they are used so an exception > can be raised. However, since the compiler will emit a warning > about variables that have never been assigned a value in an algorithm > that tries to use it, no harm is really done since the careful program= mer > will not release a program with warnings in it. In general, this is not possible, and it is somewhat silly to have the = compiler issue such messages, because on the average it will be wrong as often as= = it is right. This can not be done at compile-time but must be done at run-tim= e = and it requires the compiler to generate a lot of machinery to produce such mediocre messages. Wht we did in PL/I was to produce in the = cross-reference listing information on where a variable was referenced or assigned, but = = this was also somewhat incomplete because it requires a further analysis of = aliasing. My view is that it is of dubious value. > > So, I am assuming, Robin, that PL/I does something similar: a warning= > for any variable that is used in a program before a value is assigned = to = > it. > > Richard Riehle > >