From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Generators/coroutines in future Ada? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:18:20 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: vZYCW951TbFitc4GdEwQJg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47396 Date: 2017-07-13T10:18:20+02:00 List-Id: On 12/07/2017 22:49, G.B. wrote: > Assume that the language has special generator syntax, e.g.: > > while X of Stack with 0 < X and X < 10 loop > > This is to mean that generating a value happens once per iteration, > binding the result to the X before *of* and then evaluating the > condition. Stack being a Stateful, it has the prim ops needed. OK, but this is not generator syntax. It is the problem of using some computed value twice. Yes we need a syntax for that. Far more important than the loop-generator case are cases like: "Generator-new": X := new S'Class; declare Object : S'Class renames S'Class (X.all); begin ... end; "Generator-return": like above, create a more specific instance returning it as a more generic class-wide. "generator-test": if X in T'Class then declare Object : T'Class renames T'Class (X); begin ... end; > If X, still a generator, were instead to be repeatedly evaluated, > as in > > while 0 < X and X < 10 loop > > then it isn't clear how many values will be generated if, > under the hood, the expression entails evaluating > > 0 Note that this argument emphasizes the use of a generator, > not the construct that furnishes it. I see why co-routines are useful when dressed as tasks. I see great use in syntax constructs which might reduce above cases into single liners. I see no use in stateful functions, only damage. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de