From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: State of the compiler market Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:16:22 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <1813789782.509760763.093426.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87varxjouh.fsf@nightsong.com> <250466748.510009784.561340.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87fuelzvcq.fsf@jacob-sparre.dk> <4e60ac97-7f4f-47e7-847a-e27983accd4b@googlegroups.com> <41157952.520350738.266583.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: vZYCW951TbFitc4GdEwQJg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Language: en-US Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47161 Date: 2017-06-28T16:16:22+02:00 List-Id: On 28/06/2017 15:54, Luke A. Guest wrote: > Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> Even generics can be left as they are once the need of having them >> disappear. You just move to them the Annex J. > > You need generics in a strongly typed language, Only if I need it untyped. The core idea of generics is that you can create polymorphism outside types just by substituting different formal generic parameters into a piece of code. I don't believe this cannot be achieved through dynamic polymorphism. > without them you can't do much. This requires a demonstration. > More needs to be done in the standard library, like other languages include > things that are expected as standard. I have my reservations about having a large standard library. It is nice to have some things ready to use but it also makes people lazily choosing a solution which may be not suitable for the problem at hand. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de