From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Annoyances Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 11:07:48 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <1ac5a44b-4423-443a-a7bb-2864d9abe78f@googlegroups.com> <1498048151.20885.28.camel@obry.net> <96174ea5-852d-44e9-8535-7c1eb24d5326@googlegroups.com> <8d3aff06-82df-485f-89e5-a50c326aab05@googlegroups.com> <66aa262e-2ac9-4016-b32d-e9fee14779e1@googlegroups.com> <88e2f18a-0786-4303-a5b8-fe82e8c81dcb@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: MajGvm9MbNtGBKE7r8NgYA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Language: en-US Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47098 Date: 2017-06-24T11:07:48+02:00 List-Id: On 2017-06-24 10:35, Maciej Sobczak wrote: > >> A class-wide object of type S derived from T must be constructed in this >> order: >> >> T >> S >> S'Class >> T'Class >> >> For each stage a user-defined hook called. > > I see no practical benefit from this. Can you provide some motivating example? Dispatch upon object construction. type T is tagged ... procedure Foo (X : in out T); procedure Bar (X : in out T) is abstract; procedure T'Initialize (X : in out T) is begin Foo (X); -- This is OK Bar (T'Class (X)); -- This is not OK end T'Initialize; procedure T'Class'Initialize (X : in out T'Class) is begin Bar (X); -- This is OK, all descendants constructed end T'Class'Initialize; In C++ you can have T and S parts, plus a language hack that kills dispatching while there. In Ada you can override T + S + S'Class + T'Class as a whole for a controlled type. Neither is complete nor safe and causes a lot of problem. E.g. in Ada it is the latest stage of construction which apart from enforcing an error-prone practice calling parent's Initialize prevents us from having task components. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de