From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,23202754c9ce78dd X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-16 04:00:25 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.online.be!130.240.42.8.MISMATCH!luth.se!erix.ericsson.se!uab.ericsson.se!erinews.ericsson.se!newstoo.ericsson.se!not-for-mail From: Christian Lynbech Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:00:41 +0100 Organization: ericsson Sender: chl@chl.ted.dk.eu.ericsson.se Message-ID: References: <%njZ7.279$iR.150960@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <3c36fbc5_10@news.newsgroups.com> <4idg3u40ermnp682n6igc5gudp7hajkea9@4ax.com> <76be8851.0201101909.9db0718@posting.google.com> <9jtu3u8cq92b05j47uat3412tok6hqu1ki@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chl.ted.dk.eu.ericsson.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:24458 comp.lang.ada:18965 comp.lang.eiffel:5422 comp.lang.smalltalk:18002 Date: 2002-01-16T13:00:41+01:00 List-Id: >>>>> "Preben" == Preben Randhol writes: Preben> On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:46:36 +1100, israel r t wrote: >> Yet, if Kent is right, they may have all been " rejected ... for >> substantial reasons and not just superficial ones." Preben> This implies that the marked is rational and logical. It has Preben> shown time and time again that it isn't. Exactly, the market is made up of armies of individuals that behave according to their own small views of the world. If enough individuals falls for a myth about something being smart and cool, then that will be the markets collected reaction as well. Preben> Capitalisme will need to adjust itself in the near future from Preben> the short-term gain view to a long-term view. Unfortunately, I do not share that optimism. To survive in the market place, it is good enough that you do not do any worse than your competitors in certain areas and then you can be better in some other areas. So using C as an application language will not a business if the competitors do the same. Of course using something better than C will increase the advantages of that business, but it isn't a requirement. So as long as enough people believe something, and the market will provide a selfsustainable weight to a belief once it is there, it will not be working against you, even if it is downright wrong. A real bummer for payrollers such as myself that needs to depend on management seeing through the myths to be able to work with lisp, but certainly also a great opportunity for the entrepreneur with a good idea and an understanding of what lisp can do for him. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed is king. ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Christian Lynbech | Ericsson Telebit, Skanderborgvej 232, DK-8260 Viby J Phone: +45 8938 5244 | email: christian.lynbech@ted.ericsson.dk Fax: +45 8938 5101 | web: www.ericsson.com ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)