From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!franka.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Portable memory barrier? Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 19:38:12 -0500 Organization: JSA Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <0fc56bf7-1cfa-4776-9c47-a573db315c5f@googlegroups.com> <7b0c08eb-be62-4d14-ae99-cad038ad0a62@googlegroups.com> <077e7f6a-5a7b-4b88-a16f-7672aec18a17@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: franka.jacob-sparre.dk 1494463092 2446 24.196.82.226 (11 May 2017 00:38:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 00:38:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:46756 Date: 2017-05-10T19:38:12-05:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote in message news:oeueil$knn$1@gioia.aioe.org... > On 10/05/2017 02:51, Jere wrote: > >> Is there a method besides Atomic? If I am implementing a generic FIFO >> (lock >> free) and the FIFO elements are complex data types that may not be able >> to be >> atomic, do I have any other options or are protected objects my only way >> out? > > But you don't need elements atomic only index has to. If I understood > Randy's explanation correctly atomic access to the buffer index will give > you the barrier between index and element accesses which is all that is > required. Correct. The compiler can't motion (or let the CPU motion) volatile reads/writes across an atomic read/write. Thus you can depend on the order of volatile operations so long as an atomic operation is interleaved. Randy.