From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Portable memory barrier? Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 23:09:40 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <0fc56bf7-1cfa-4776-9c47-a573db315c5f@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: BYuA7L7MRjuLLjcoGHOBxw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:46710 Date: 2017-05-08T23:09:40+02:00 List-Id: On 2017-05-08 22:29, Niklas Holsti wrote: > On 17-05-08 19:22 , Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > > [snip] > >> I don't see anything there what would prevent CPU from changing the >> order of accesses to two *independent* memory locations when only the >> program logic ties them nothing else. Well, except that there is no >> obvious reason why it would like to change that order. > > I quote from an earlier post of mine in this thread: > > Just as in C, volatile accesses in Ada are guaranteed to occur in the > order and number written in the source code and executed in the > "standard" order [moreover, this includes all tasks in the program]: > > RM C.6 (16/3): All tasks of the program (on all processors) that read or > update volatile variables see the same order of updates to the > variables. This is ambiguous. Does it read as: A. Order of updates per volatile variable B. Order of updates to the set of all volatile variables B is sufficient, A is not. Depending on the implementation A may imply B or not. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de