From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ivan Levashev Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Visual Studio IDE - Integration Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:50:24 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <427190d2-0fb4-465b-b1be-0a10d9b2d290@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:56:08 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="67aadb325cb1fe7b28814a21a4561bb9"; logging-data="10056"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bJSxMNgavYPQI9BTQyNffTqBTmOU5Y80=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 In-Reply-To: <427190d2-0fb4-465b-b1be-0a10d9b2d290@googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:p3eY3nvVtRTpMZU68j3QjMpG43w= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:33335 Date: 2017-02-12T08:50:24+07:00 List-Id: 27.01.2017 19:49, alby.gamper@gmail.com пишет: > Dear Ada Community > > Is their any general interest in using Visual Studio as an IDE for ADA > development ? (Not as a replacement to GPS, but rather as an alternative > for those teams primarily working on Windows based environments) I used to want Ada in Delphi IDE (BDS, RAD) as yet another language in addition to C++ and Delphi. But for good developer experience that also implies embedding cross-platform GUI builder which is always a hard choice. Personally I'm Cocoa proponent. And I'm neither FireMonkey nor VCL propoment. Cocoa is ARC, and VCL and FireMonkey are unconvenient single referenced frameworks. > d) I have a rudimentary binding to WinRT, BUT this is limited to NON GUI > functionality, since XAML and Windows Composition API's seem to require a > sandboxed/windows Store environment to run under ? Recent Delphi and C++ Builder solved this via Centennial loophole. They are distributing Starter keys for free currently so you can investigate how do they handle WinRT. There is a report on their work: https://community.embarcadero.com/blogs/entry/windows-10-from-winrt-to-centennial-with-marco-cantu Those dirty secrets Microsoft is not going to tell you, only 3rd party vendords are, and just as always we are step behind Delphi when it takes to UI stuff, so they are exploring WinRT and Cocoa before us. Marco Cantu got to the Windows Store with Delphi program, so with Ada it's also possible. Best Regards, Ivan Levashev, Barnaul -- If you want to get to the top, you have to start at the bottom