From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,af0c6ea85f3ed92d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.241.37 with SMTP id wf5mr18951316pbc.4.1329850387523; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:53:07 -0800 (PST) Path: wr5ni52281pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Arbitrary Sandbox Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:04 +0100 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: References: <2aaee0a4-e820-4a75-bbaf-d9d09c366d2c@f5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4da4bf75-e6c9-4c17-9072-ab6f533ed93f@vd8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <203d63cf-42a9-49ef-82cd-943d77b5e438@c21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <193cr8xol0ysi.14p4cp2yxnb0r$.dlg@40tude.net> <1jleu301thnd3$.s23priwn3ajb$.dlg@40tude.net> <18o3vqsl9uy2$.a3m68cg8ysro.dlg@40tude.net> <1fkgdlidn0v80$.kjvkmk7y29vo$.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: qGImE7n4JFQnGhfnPVJzcA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-02-21T19:53:04+01:00 List-Id: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:25:09 -0500, Robert A Duff wrote: > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > >> Of course there is. Do you remember the last time U_C crashed Windows or >> Linux? > > No. > > But I've lost track of whether we're talking about security > or bug prevention/detection. The former and the latter when it comes to bounding the effects of execution of buggy code. Consider design of a container library in Ada, which cannot broken whatever the client does. I think it is possible to achieve with the corresponding modifications of the language and appropriate hardware support. Consider all software designed in such manner... (Yes, nobody of us will ever see this) > x86 is a mess, but it's popularity is > an accident of history. I don't believe in accidents, negative selection is a real thing at work. Otherwise, there would be no dark ages. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de