From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Nasser M. Abbasi" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: C# new features (v.7) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 11:13:24 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <5f542dff-8dd0-49b8-8228-3ccc8248c57d@googlegroups.com> <276a2153-b81f-4e19-9615-530e798e5798@googlegroups.com> <1533893062.503569684.598007.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <877f6y3lzo.fsf@nightsong.com> Reply-To: nma@12000.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 52btGir6u7PsubGbyxCtLg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:32904 Date: 2016-12-17T11:13:24-06:00 List-Id: On 12/17/2016 4:09 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > > Younger programmers (those who didn't grow up dealing with old slow > machines with little memory) generally use lower performance but more > convenient languages rather than C, Ada, etc. They're protected from > integer overflow by bignums, memory errors by bounds checking, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > alloc/free errors by garbage collection, etc. Which one of these so called "modern" and "fun" languages that Younger programmers use has bounds checking built in? Can one even declare a variable in these languages with restricted bounds? May be I am misunderstanding the context you are thinking of here. I thought Ada was unique in this area, one of the few language if not only one. >Lots of very good > developers shipping successful products have never programmed in > anything but Javascript or Python or Ruby. Ada and C are niche > languages for embedded control and C++ is for when performance requires > it (except now Go and Rust are cutting in on that niche too). > > As others have said, C++ has also improved a lot lately, with more > improvements coming. > I would not touch c++ not matter how good it becomes. Such a complex language. Computer languages should be simple to understand. Ada also has got too complex from its original1983 version. We all should go back to using Turbo Pascal. That was a simple, an easy to understand and a fun language to program in :) --Nasser