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From: "Alejandro R. Mosteo" <alejandro@mosteo.com>
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Subject: Re: C# new features (v.7)
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On 16/12/16 21:14, Hadrien Grasland wrote:
> Le vendredi 16 décembre 2016 13:43:26 UTC+1, Alejandro R. Mosteo a écrit :
>> On 16/12/16 08:55, Hadrien Grasland wrote:
>>> Le jeudi 15 décembre 2016 13:49:20 UTC+1, Alejandro R. Mosteo a écrit :
>>>> And tasking? Every time I see C++ people fumbling with low-level
>>>> semaphores I want to cry. No language (that I know) comes even near Ada
>>>> tasks + protected combo. No wonder multithreading is sold as some kind
>>>> of miracle when some program uses it properly.
>>>
>>> To be fair, Ada has no equivalent to C++'s portable atomics either. C++ these days is mostly marketed as a low-level infrastructure to build performance-critical libraries in, whereas Ada is more designed like a high-level end-user solution, and these diverging design goals lead to different design choices.
>>
>> Yep, C++ is adding tons of useful thing to the standard libs after the
>> 11/14 iterations. Actually, with the newest versions you can get rid of
>> many bad practices, I'd say it's even very confy to write in. The heavy
>> templating and crypotsyntax however still scare me the moment I have to
>> check library code.
>
> It is quite frustrating, though, how much the C++ commitee favors super-guru features catering to the last 5% performance optimization, such as constexprs, over basic usability improvements like concepts (C++ finally coming close to understanding Ada 83 generics), modules (C++ compilation finally entering the 21st century), the concurrency TS (finally admitting that C++11 futures were a total clusterfsck), ranges (finally freeing people from the repetitive and unreadable mess of iterator-based code)...

Totally agreed.