From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "G.B." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 2012 Constraints (WRT an Ada IR) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 17:21:14 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nonlegitur@notmyhomepage.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 16:19:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="d7777aaea4e05f5460ede15b9236d665"; logging-data="12332"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+OI52S0sWKgdr6jMqVFATslsPeY+V9oG4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:D8oQ/eLPgYPl6jaNtgujsjSwzU8= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:32820 Date: 2016-12-14T17:21:14+01:00 List-Id: On 14/12/2016 13:55, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On 14/12/2016 13:21, G.B. wrote: >> On 13/12/2016 22:11, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> So, as far as contract based programming by programmers goes, >> >> Pre => A > B >> >> is to mean that ^^^^^^^ >> >> (forall A)(forall B)[A in T -> (B in T -> A > B)] >> >> SHALL be true so that the client gets what it deserves. > > Then it is > > SHALL ((forall A)(forall B)[A in T -> (B in T -> A > B)] |= True) > > By no means this is an Ada expression. But reasonably close to a quantified expression that must be true, in case one is needed in place of just "A > B". If Pre => A > B means something to Ada programmers while following their contractual obligations, I don't think it is that all A>B entails True. Nor need the Post aspect be ignored as a source both for developing an implementation, and refining Pre. If we do know what must be true for an implementation to produce a desired result, though, it will be negligent to not say so and instead start operations anyway.