From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 2012 Constraints (WRT an Ada IR) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:33:48 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <47366b42-c0a3-41bf-a44a-5241c109d60f@googlegroups.com> <87eg1e2f2c.fsf@nightsong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vZYCW951TbFitc4GdEwQJg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:32739 Date: 2016-12-12T09:33:48+01:00 List-Id: On 12/12/2016 00:58, Paul Rubin wrote: > "G.B." writes: >> CLU uses "requires", Eiffel uses "require" for Pre, >> perhaps preventing a misunderstanding: >> Pre only happens to be descriptive in proven programs. >> Pre is really meant for programmers unconditionally. >> Pre produces a maximally informed start for programming. > > I thought Eiffel contracts could be checked at either compile time or > run time. Dijkstra's original description of preconditions didn't > involve any type of compile time checking. Preconditions/contracts > state assumptions of the implementation, and if you can prove them, > that's great, but I don't remember hearing this was required. It is not required. A program is still same if nothing about it was proven. That is another way to say that a precondition cannot be checked by the program itself = preconditions are not statements of the object language. > Ada certainly allows Pre=> to be checked at runtime. Because they are not preconditions, what in Ada is falsely called preconditions is a part of the subprogram body. Surely you could not turn it off, but you could optimize it away. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de