From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "G.B." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 2012 Constraints (WRT an Ada IR) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 14:31:52 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <03847fd7-5699-48de-bb3c-ef5512398f26@googlegroups.com> <3ef819e8-55f7-4ef7-9f37-77e6abc33f98@googlegroups.com> <47366b42-c0a3-41bf-a44a-5241c109d60f@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nonlegitur@notmyhomepage.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:30:30 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="985f538a19ae66c848ab6227f8a3b828"; logging-data="381"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18p4xDKzrns5ZyfM5dQx+SLcaWlOfH+mjI=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:t5cL5Bipfkk7z2WmKwv5uPP3qKM= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:32718 Date: 2016-12-11T14:31:52+01:00 List-Id: On 11/12/2016 13:28, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> so that the caller >> knows what to do about a and b and the implementation of `remainder` >> can assume it's been done? > > That does not translate to me into anything. Seeing function X (A, B: T) return T; I can write Y (X (A => any of T, B => any of T)); Seeing function X (A, B: T) return T with Pre => A > B; I must first establish A > B before calling X, because "Pre" tells me so. Me. Me, the programmer who plans a call of X. Me, who is meant to respect the law, i.e., the contract. CLU uses "requires", Eiffel uses "require" for Pre, perhaps preventing a misunderstanding: Pre only happens to be descriptive in proven programs. Pre is really meant for programmers unconditionally. Pre produces a maximally informed start for programming. How much should a function declaration tell a programmer about the relation between parameters A and B in the following? Just: True (nothing), but be prepared for Constraint_Error to be raised for reasons that we don't tell you? function Plus_Too (A, B: Standard.Integer) return Standard.Integer is begin return A + B; end Plus_Too;