From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Adam Jensen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Getting started with bare-board development Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 18:35:45 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 23:35:13 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="00d608ea9175bce12524a6c84b7789f6"; logging-data="25980"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18gPjyFFQAfXnJ7Or7Tu9aD" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:VftODfYTONqDRsLowNv6V4hDQGc= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:32316 Date: 2016-11-14T18:35:45-05:00 List-Id: On 11/14/2016 04:04 AM, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > I think you are confusing things a bit. If you have computing hardware > mocked you are doing simulation and the time is simulation time. If the > peripheral hardware is real or partially real it is hardware-in-the-loop > simulation (HIL). HIL is usually real-time because. What people are > saying is that HIL is much more cost efficient developing platform than > some embedded board. Furthermore Ada is ideal for HIL because Ada > software is portable. So you can develop almost everything on the PC and > test almost everything in the loop. Then if some hardware (except the > board itself) is too expensive or difficult to use, it can be simulated > (mocked) in turn. Which is especially important when you want to test > some catastrophic or improbable scenarios. Yeah, I can imagine this stack (basic): workstation's hardware - operating system - run-time system - program And this stack: embedded hardware - embedded run-time system - RT-program And this stack: RT-program embedded run-time system emulator (Qemu) operating system workstation But this setup is confusing: RT-program embedded target run-time system simulated hardware native run-time system operating system workstation