From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9ce828272f314121 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!a6202946!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Organization: jrcarter commercial-at acm [period | full stop] org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: output of enumeration types References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 01:38:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.254.200.174 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1113961107 4.254.200.174 (Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:38:27 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:38:27 PDT Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10601 Date: 2005-04-20T01:38:27+00:00 List-Id: Staszek Goldstein wrote: > > I am afraid this is just the kind of argument that makes Ada so unpopular > (no offence > intended). The point is that Ada delivers lots of beautiful abstractions, > but people > are often quite happy with something less abstract and easier to use. For > example, I would have no difficulty dealing with the problem in C because I > would not have even dreamt of building the type in C - I would have used > regular strings instead. You use abstractions to solve problems, not to > create > them. I would have no difficulty dealing with the problem in Ada. Yes, I would have to write some code to deal with the character and string types involved, but it would be a lot less than the amount of code I would need to deal with the concepts in C. > Ada, while gaining power, lost some of its virtues > as a language > "easy to read" without becoming "easier to write". Emphasizing ease of reading over ease of writing is an explicit design goal for Ada. Ada is a language for software engineers. "Easier to write" is only important for coders. -- Jeff Carter "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" Monty Python & the Holy Grail 67