From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why is java so widespread when ada is free? makes 0 sense Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:08:04 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <866e6e94-6e49-4b73-8840-9d0987254253@googlegroups.com> <5a5c5093-4c1a-4791-8e7e-0e6d97df3b45@googlegroups.com> <08e98f7b-056c-431d-a05a-0886406cc38d@googlegroups.com> <4bfa7e47-12ab-4eb9-9776-c0a061fc3730@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nonlegitur@futureapps.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 00:08:05 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="ac1abc42c1974adc9a5dd7a830e39c02"; logging-data="23533"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19PrLa9ZqCFUaGIgqUV8/obwO/USgqg8SQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 In-Reply-To: <4bfa7e47-12ab-4eb9-9776-c0a061fc3730@googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:K4SYWh71tkDMdWev9bTsN9ov8xw= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:31128 Date: 2016-07-23T02:08:04+02:00 List-Id: On 22.07.16 13:47, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > Op vrijdag 10 juni 2016 16:16:06 UTC+2 schreef endlessboo...@gmail.com: >> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 5:10:03 AM UTC-4, Lucretia wrote: >>> Because Sun paid a lot of companies to use it. >> >> I can beleive that! > > Ada is not "free" in the sense of Java. > There is both a GPL version (not to be used for commercial purposes) and a separate commercial version. > To put cost in perspective, Oracle's Java SE, supported editions, are being offered at around $,$$$ to $$,$$$. Training, also the Self-Study Course for Java EE is in the same range. If one wanted JBoss from Redhat, the figures won't be that different, per year. Microsoft's MSDN subscriptions for fully commercial use of their software start at $,$$$ per seat and year. I understand that developers of programs for Apple devices, if wanting support that exceeded the one or two incidents included in the developer programs, would have to pay $$,$$$, too. There is no free lunch. But, there is good impression management.