From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: RFC: Prototype for a user threading library in Ada Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:39:19 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <58b78af5-28d8-4029-8804-598b2b63013c@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vFKDMXWEWKqnQQwESBoFfw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:30891 Date: 2016-06-23T10:39:19+02:00 List-Id: On 23/06/2016 03:42, Randy Brukardt wrote: > I'd like to understand better the motivations for these features, so if you > (or anyone else) wants to try to explain them to me, feel free. The motivation is a two-liner. Let you have some consumer of data: procedure Write (Buffer : String; Last : out Integer); It may take less than the whole string when called, but will take more data later. So, the parameter Last. Now you want to write a program in a *normal* way: Write ("This"); Write ("That"); That's it. This applies to all kinds of asynchronous communication and naturally to all kinds of parallel and distributed programming. Ada tasks + blocking exchange are far too heavy-weight for many applications. Consider a server handling 1K connections as an example or a tiny embedded board running HTTP server, MQTT server, MODBUS client + dozens of other protocols etc. Protected objects + non-blocking exchange are OK, but you will have to design your program standing on your head = saving the state between portions of data, running a complicated state machine. This is not scalable and unmaintainable. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de