From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Simple Components 4.12 with MQTT implementation released Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:33:03 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <6d3b7ac5-8fc6-406c-8aac-947d25a78249@googlegroups.com> <3a88453a-ffaf-45d7-b6bc-39c161226638@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: LMk7+sG0YqgPmReI4fVkAA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.aioe.org Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:30175 Date: 2016-04-18T18:33:03+02:00 List-Id: On 2016-04-16 19:48, slos wrote: > If no gateway is used the ADC has to implement the protocol, whatever it is.. The IoT protocol obviously, that is the idea of. >> Now, the point I am making is that neither OPC nor MQTT is suitable to >> serve as the DDL (data-distribution layer) for a middleware stretching >> from application to the automation devices. Both were originated under >> impression of desktop office applications rather than real-life process >> control. > I agree. That's why they are used on the upper levels. > For process control, real time protocols are used. And that defeats the idea of IoT which presumes a flat network of things. One cannot have both, a layered infrastructure of application protocols (dependency on the area, not to be confused with OSI layers) and an internet of things. I don't argue for or against either, I only make an observation that OPC and MQTT do not fit into the latter architecture. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de