From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "G.B." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Operating System differences and Ada OS independent programming Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:08:41 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <56eff4a4$0$4238$e4fe514c@news.kpn.nl> Reply-To: nonlegitur@futureapps.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:05:31 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b96887e80893c84a90c3007226ca0d1c"; logging-data="28802"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18v6PWj9M3U2FXaUVkEyfyTDX98UgisFX4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:eOT4U6LW0QLbUy1Adz3A8cAJ0/o= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:29845 Date: 2016-03-22T16:08:41+01:00 List-Id: On 22.03.16 14:40, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> Would this be real: >> >> 1. Take a zipped archive, produced by a real ZIP program, >> of an Ada program's file system hierarchy on System A. >> >> 2. unzip in the same manner on System B. >> >> 3. Expect Ada's (not yet real) file system related types >> to handle the files thus transported. > > Sure. I take it that the certainty refers to "real". OK. > Considering that file paths have equivalents in the given file > system = an implementation is possible [*]. There would be no problem. Except that possible /= real yet: Do we get there without making ZIP aware of Ada's data representation needs? Or without making the file system a typed file system, for that matter? > And in general, what your concern might be, is unrelated to the problem > at hand. You are talking about serializing/deserializing some language > object. This problem is independent on what the object is supposed to > be. Alas, mentioning that an object is supposed to be something does not say what it should be in any interpretation. Related question: What is a proper description of the "Form" parameters of Ada's I/O routines, in terms of a standard Ada type, or several standard Ada types? > BTW, you forgot: > > 4. Pack it again and make sure that the new archive is exactly same. Isn't the symmetry (modulo time stamps) already a consequence of A and B not being specific?