From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 1 Sep 93 07:34:31 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!nbh@decwrl.dec.com (N.B. Hedd) Subject: Re: Hoare's gripes about Ada (was Re: Ada and C++ ...) Message-ID: List-Id: Ted, Ted, Ted--before using Hoare as an authority on language design, can you please enumerate for me the languages that Hoare himself has designed that have proven to be commercial successes? 'Cause personally I can't think of anything significant he's done in the field of language design. He's no Ichbiah. He's no Meyer. He's no Kernigan or Richie. Hell, he's not even a Bjarne. He's just some old fart who ran out of original ideas a couple of decades ago and who's only real claim to fame these days is an idiotic speech attacking Ada but proposing no extent language as an alternative for the sorts of dangerous, mission-critical, absolutely-cannot-fail systems for which Ada was designed. And besides all that, it's not as if Hoare is trumpeting the virtues of C/C++. If he was alarmed by Ada because he thought it was too complex to be proven correct and therefore unsuitable for controlling nuclear reactors, do you honestly think he'd deem C++ or C SAFER? What color is the sky on your planet? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ John R. Moore is an idiot.