From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f891f,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gidf891f,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-04-25 03:56:03 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!btnet-peer0!btnet!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "chris.danx" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.misc References: <3AE67F57.722A78D8@andrewcooke.free-online.co.uk> <3AE69665.63E362CD@info.unicaen.fr> Subject: Re: Thoughts and Opinions or something like that X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:51:29 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.253.8.134 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 988195859 62.253.8.134 (Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:50:59 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:50:59 BST Organization: ntlworld News Service Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:6915 comp.lang.functional:5282 comp.lang.misc:1126 Date: 2001-04-25T11:51:29+01:00 List-Id: Hi, [posting to others re-instated] > > Things I'd like from a VM (off the top of my head - I don't use VMs > > directly and I have no idea whether the following are possible): > > > > - garbage collection > > - support for coroutines (no single stack restrictions) > > - support for tail recursion > > > > (the last two are known problems with the JVM, I believe). > > > Scheme VMs have GC and tail-call optimization. Java VM has threads. > Icon VM has coroutines (rather: co-expressions). No problems, and > I would add that it is MUCH easier to provide for a more complicated > semantics of a language using an interpreter than compiling to > a native code... Do you mean just rip out an interpreter and forget the VM idea until later? That sounds like a good idea. > > > If you want to concentrate on your language, rather than writing the VM, > > you could target an existing machine - apart from the obvious .net and > > JVM, you might consider C-- > > > Sorry, but I am violently against this approach, if you want to do > something interesting, to learn new paradigms, to have some fun. Using > existing VPlatforms (BTW, C-- is not one) is good for the portability > and for the possibility of "selling" it to a wider community, but it > is a little boring, and you feel like putting yourself voluntarily > into a somebody else's straitjacket. > > ... > > "chris danx": > > and the following "not sure" or "in many paradigms" features > > > > - Units bound to values/variables > > - Lists [] > > - Arrays <> > > Don't neglect reasonable arrays, please, otherwise one day, sooner > or later you will regret it... > What do you mean by reasonable arrays? What's unreasonable about them? Chris > > Jerzy Karczmarczuk > Caen, France