From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,6e940fd5ba87c3ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,ebcb336c62963fb4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-15 11:46:58 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:46:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:47:02 -0500 From: Wesley Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, es-mx, pt-br, fr-ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: real-time Java References: <5ad0dd8a.0304150959.b35340e@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5ad0dd8a.0304150959.b35340e@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.117.18.91 X-Trace: sv3-MV3c6uM84/MjIdKF/VIxAmNs9lKNuUASq9nSGmyYKcY5FKnO4/WQJhX3H0B2BQedGTteNd8Yw3CZ7wT!thbZvYmAXn7XiKBYtRUNg/iU3d43ryvpbracQy+k5HwsHAeDfbqdOusQunoCoXmrOi+wO822BWIa!5Yve X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62189 comp.lang.ada:36173 Date: 2003-04-15T13:47:02-05:00 List-Id: > But in practice my experience with java libraries is that the > developers relieved of the necessity to free memory explicitly, tend > to forget about memory management completely (i.e. not clear stale > references). You're stuck with OutOfMemoryError even though there is > no "garbage" per se in the running app, and you really cannot do much. > You cannot contact the vendor and say - "your library leaks". I was amused at JBuilder one day. I pulled down an "info" menu option. At the bottom of the little widget that popped up was the amount of memory in use. Even though I was doing absolutely nothing, the number kept slowly rising. When it hit some threshold, GC was triggered and it started over.