From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38159b1b5557a2e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-27 11:11:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!a6202946!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Organization: jrcarter commercial-at acm [period | full stop] org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Ada Preprocessor References: <100upo7ln5e3k59@corp.supernews.com> <400FC8E8.2040100@noplace.com> <_JSdna166JuxFo3dRVn-hg@comcast.com> <401115B7.5020205@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:11:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.184.16.112 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1075230675 63.184.16.112 (Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:11:15 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:11:15 PST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4922 Date: 2004-01-27T19:11:15+00:00 List-Id: Robert I. Eachus wrote: > No, I think the right approach is to keep improving Ada for software > engineers and let programmers use C++. We are doomed to live in a world > where most code is poorly designed. All we can do is try to keep an > island of sanity, and try to insure that Ada is used where quality is > critical. (I am not saying there is no well designed C++ out there. > There is, but it is the exception, not something you can expect.) What's really needed is to only allow software engineers to choose languages and design software. Coders can only write small, well specified pieces of code for the designs developed by software engineers. The problem is distinguishing software engineers from coders and the economic pressures for poor quality software. -- Jeff Carter "Beyond 100,000 lines of code you should probably be coding in Ada." P. J. Plauger 26