From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada package registry? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:37:52 -0600 Organization: JSA Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <02241ec4-0f95-4f63-9abc-092f167eb59e@googlegroups.com> <56af17b7$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <56b06eb8$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <1454483747.2785.135.camel@obry.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1455154673 16536 24.196.82.226 (11 Feb 2016 01:37:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 01:37:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:29486 Date: 2016-02-10T19:37:52-06:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote in message news:n9c9a8$mt9$1@gioia.aioe.org... > On 09/02/2016 00:02, Randy Brukardt wrote: >> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote in message >> news:n94cbv$19ed$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >>> For persistence layer you need dereference primitive operations. One for >>> read access in order to cache data and one write access to mark the >>> cache >>> dirty. >> >> The first is the function call (to Reference, if you're looking at the >> Ada >> containers), and the second is the Finalize call that happens when the >> object returned from Reference goes away. That was the whole point of the >> design. (Of course, you could have written that in Ada 95, but without >> the >> syntactic sugar that makes it easier to read and write.) > > It is not same. A reference points to a proxy object, a cached copy of the > external object in the persistent storage. When the proxy object is > updated via any reference, it must be marked dirty. So that when the > object at some point gets finalized or the transaction is committed it > would be written back to the storage. But actually they are the same, because the reference can only exist for a very short time. (You can't assign a reference because the accessibility is too shallow.) Thus, the proxy object can be marked dirty (if you created a writable reference, which is only created when you actually use the reference in a writable context) and written back to the persistent storage. You do have to make sure that only one task is potentially writing a proxy object at a time, but that seems like a good thing. (Obviously, sharing proxy objects between read-only references is fine.) Randy.