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On 2016-02-07 23:11, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On 07.02.16 21:11, Björn Lundin wrote:
>> On 2016-02-07 11:00, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>>> On 07.02.16 09:02, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BTW, the whole idea of exporting something (data) into something
>>>> (Excel) shows bogus design. Why cannot the end data consumer access
>>>> data directly?
>>>
>>> They don't know the database.
>>
>> They do.
> 
> Before this degrades to positioning particular cases against
> other particular cases of opposite organisational design:
> The crucial bit is that, in the end, access to data (what, how)
> is not a consequence of programming decisions.  Technical
> facilities will be ordered .IFF. they facilitate achieving
> what has been agreed on, starting from more general premises
> of an organisational nature.
> 

Right. I agree.
And I agree with your statement about large organizations hiding
the underlaying storage from employees, like in banking systems.
That is of course a decision by the system owner, not
caused by the design of the system.

And also that some system vendors like to keep this
underlaying storage from customers as well.
And I think that is wrong - in my line of work.
In others - like system for hospitals or others keeping more sensible
data - it might be a good thing.

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Björn