From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada package registry? Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 09:54:09 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <02241ec4-0f95-4f63-9abc-092f167eb59e@googlegroups.com> <56af17b7$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <56b06eb8$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <1454483747.2785.135.camel@obry.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: LNA1TkTuMxfwTHzeJdi6nA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:29377 Date: 2016-02-06T09:54:09+01:00 List-Id: On 2016-02-06 01:04, Randy Brukardt wrote: > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote in message > news:n91oau$1bk5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 04/02/2016 22:09, Randy Brukardt wrote: > .... >>> (The reason that we adopted the generalized reference feature that we did >>> is >>> because of the ability to use it to manage persistence -- in particular, >>> to >>> be able to figure out when the in-memory copy can be freed and written to >>> the backing store.) >> >> That is not enough. You need references with a notification upon >> dereferencing. > > That's called "a function call" :-). There's no need for a separate feature > for that (since anonymous access results are essentially uncopyable). What > was missing was a way to know when the access itself goes away. That is called a function call too. For persistence layer you need dereference primitive operations. One for read access in order to cache data and one write access to mark the cache dirty. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de