From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada package registry? Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 19:11:29 -0600 Organization: JSA Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <02241ec4-0f95-4f63-9abc-092f167eb59e@googlegroups.com> <56af17b7$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <56b06eb8$0$301$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <1454483747.2785.135.camel@obry.net> <1454568668.2996.15.camel@obry.net> <1454656310.19706.31.camel@obry.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1454721090 7403 24.196.82.226 (6 Feb 2016 01:11:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 01:11:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:29372 Date: 2016-02-05T19:11:29-06:00 List-Id: "Pascal Obry" wrote in message news:1454656310.19706.31.camel@obry.net... Le jeudi 04 février 2016 à 14:52 -0600, Randy Brukardt a écrit : >> So all you're really >> saying is that you don't care about what happens down the road, which >> is a >> sad-but-true state of affairs in many areas of today's world. > >Wrong reading... or just what you want to think! > >No I do care... But I have do the job and since I don't have 100 years >myself to rewrite OpenSSL, part of the OS to have an Ada Socket library >and a full graphical toolkit I do have to use third party and possibly >written in C for my projects. Surely YOU personally don't (and shouldn't) have to rewrite everything, but it would be good if *someone* did that. And, again, I've drawn the line at what is in the target system natively; so there's no need to "rewrite sockets" or (at least on Windows) a "graphical toolkit"). It doesn't make much sense to recreate those things if one is targeting an OS. (If you were running on a bare system, then of course you'd need to do it.) >If *you* don't care about security and don't use an SSL implementation >that's up to you, but please don't just say that other do not care >because they are not using the same approach... For one thing it would >be at least respectful. Huh? I said that I've personally never had the need for SSL in an Ada program, but I surely didn't mean to imply that no one else did. I very *definitely* care about security. Indeed, I care enough that I would want to implement SSL in Ada (and probably SPARK) if I had a real business need for it. I could see using something like OpenSSL, but only for a non-critical need in a Q&D program. I would not be too likely to want to distribute that sort of thing, precisely because it was Q&D. I wouldn't expect anybody to hand-hold some jury-rigged Q&D solution to any problem. But as always, YMMV. That goes without saying, especially in this case when so far as I recall I was only talking about me and where I would want Ada to go. What, precisely, you think is not respectful about that is beyond me. And being accused of being "not respectful" makes me want to prove you right...so I'll stop now before I say something I might actually regret. Randy.