From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "G.B." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Haskell, anyone? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:41:15 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <14533506-4289-4148-b8c4-e970f5778b26@googlegroups.com> <87si45msuz.fsf@nightsong.com> <35d6dc4f-4f2e-4e75-925c-e4acc7c8f112@googlegroups.com> <76ea0bc9-537b-4c68-a728-4f634cf6de52@googlegroups.com> <87a8qccxj4.fsf@nightsong.com> <0ff849e9-11d7-438d-abf9-853f79348640@googlegroups.com> <874mgjnctv.fsf@nightsong.com> <87ziyblkzn.fsf@nightsong.com> <937b88b1-66aa-4205-a412-9588d83a3f26@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nonlegitur@futureapps.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:56 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b96887e80893c84a90c3007226ca0d1c"; logging-data="1670"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18LFdvvrGIzD/VFu4ap3Gv+XMQATHsziPw=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:9X2uI7v7qxTkFkKSFyNsDjYU97g= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:28444 Date: 2015-11-18T13:41:15+01:00 List-Id: On 18.11.15 12:02, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > Actually any machine is a FSA. Stateless computation is an oxymoron. The > sole reason of having any program running is for the side effects it > produces. One doesn't show one's state in mathematical circles, does one? That would be like showing notes and computations, but not results. Procedures are talked about in public only when they are the subject of declarative sentences, such as sentences that explain properties of procedures. Which then, sadly, might necessitate referring to examples of procedural computation. ;-) Dirt (procedures, states) is for the hands of engineers and (some) educators, mostly for people whose work (programs) has effects on non-people.