From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Gnat 2013 is out! Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:35:03 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: References: <4taq191qkdba1kcqkps4iqe6t94t1bf1qc@4ax.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: IenaDxMXK2hi7fvYcb+MlQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Original-Bytes: 2028 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:183175 Date: 2013-08-28T09:35:03+02:00 List-Id: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:59:25 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:05:20 -0400, wilson declaimed > the following: > >>Thank you for saying something I have felt for years. I always felt odd >>man out for this approach and it is good to have someone else say the same >>thing. > > I've only made significant use of one debugger -- the one on DEC VMS. Yes, that was the best debugger ever. GDB is trash. There are bugs which are easier to catch using tracing, but also there are some much easier to do with a visual debugger. It is difficult to say in which relation they are. I suspect that Ada eliminates more bugs of the second kind than of the first kind. On top of that comes the misery of GDB. I remember, in ObjectAda times, which had more or less decent debugger, I used it time to time. But I never managed to track any bug with GDB (under AdaGIDE and GPS). -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de