From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.50.28.78 with SMTP id z14mr2034202igg.1.1438066834970; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 00:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Path: buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!f3no3834447igg.0!news-out.google.com!a16ni30793ign.0!nntp.google.com!news.glorb.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else... Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:00:36 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <65061686-5c8f-433b-9b11-9e228298158e@googlegroups.com> <87k2u96jms.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <06f8a6f9-d219-4d40-b9ac-8518e93839bd@googlegroups.com> <87y4io63jy.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <7a29d3e9-d1bd-4f4a-b1a6-14d3e1a83a4d@googlegroups.com> <87mvz36fen.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <2215b44f-8a89-47c6-a4c4-52b74d2dac45@googlegroups.com> <9e492c82-868d-43d3-a18a-38274400e337@googlegroups.com> <40184feb-4053-4ac3-8eaa-c3bd9cd8a77c@googlegroups.com> <10272577-945f-4682-85bc-8ad47f3653ae@googlegroups.com> <87si8i81k2.fsf@atmarama.net> <8076cbd0-2655-4c98-b70e-cb5f0c32e4ba@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nonlegitur@futureapps.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="0bb2db648eace777a0b1960affd730a0"; logging-data="27925"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Eu4JXO87CwPxBVgRYanU/S1du/ZJujeA=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:VOiJRNhCm+HXGge6dNo7bGyBHwo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:194374 Date: 2015-07-28T09:00:36+02:00 List-Id: On 28.07.15 00:59, Randy Brukardt wrote: > Ada is (...) certainly not for prototyping For Ada to be useful here, the specifics of the prototype might play a role, I think: If the prototype depends on libraries inaccessible from Ada, o.K. But otherwise, since prototyping seems more about shams, facades, hollow building blocks, reduced feature set, speed, fake data, limited I/O support, etc., why would C, say, be better for prototyping than Ada? When would SETL, or Python, or BigEEMathSimPack be better suited? If, for example, a LAMP style prototype of some Web based service is to be made, then using either Ada, or Java, or C# doesn't look so forbidding, although it might not be socially acceptable. (I'm currently porting a collection of Python programs from one Python environment to another. The code has evolved from a prototype. I wish Python had Ada like types and parameter profiles if only because of the added value of documenting What This Thing Is™. How is a prototype useful when the language used for prototyping tends to vaporize the Why-and-How of its choices and structure?)