From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else... Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:44:57 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <64bc671c-72e5-4924-b703-3b907c69949c@googlegroups.com><877fq9uj6g.fsf@theworld.com><65061686-5c8f-433b-9b11-9e228298158e@googlegroups.com><87k2u96jms.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net><06f8a6f9-d219-4d40-b9ac-8518e93839bd@googlegroups.com><87y4io63jy.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net><7a29d3e9-d1bd-4f4a-b1a6-14d3e1a83a4d@googlegroups.com><87mvz36fen.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net><2215b44f-8a89-47c6-a4c4-52b74d2dac45@googlegroups.com><9e492c82-868d-43d3-a18a-38274400e337@googlegroups.com><40184feb-4053-4ac3-8eaa-c3bd9cd8a77c@googlegroups.com><10272577-945f-4682-85bc-8ad47f3653ae@googlegroups.com><87si8i81k2.fsf@atmarama.net> <1gsux33dqvjbp$.h0prf7p7g2vn.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1438037099 1362 24.196.82.226 (27 Jul 2015 22:44:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:44:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:27057 Date: 2015-07-27T17:44:57-05:00 List-Id: "Simon Wright" wrote in message news:lyegk1jk41.fsf@pushface.org... ... >> Why repeating this flawed syntax for classes? It is again about >> fundamentals, privacy is not a type property. It is of a module. > > Well, as far as I can see protected types, tasks and (in this > not-to-be-taken-seriously proposal) classes are modules, in a way. Why use "sort-of modules" when Ada already has strong, well-designed modules? That's the main argument given by the Ada 9x team, and I for one have a hard time arguing that. Languages with the "class = module" property never had any modules in the first place. They confused the benefits of modules with the (smaller) benefits of O-O. And so on. (If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail...) Randy.