From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: newbie, Spark 2014 or Ada 2012 Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:55:27 -0700 Organization: Also freenews.netfront.net; news.tornevall.net; news.eternal-september.org Message-ID: References: <974c8db0-c9e8-49d4-8db1-3417ec49217b@googlegroups.com> <87k2uenkcw.fsf@nightsong.com> <87615x9s3o.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87pp438tm6.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87d2028dfy.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <878uap8539.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87zj356p2q.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87oajl6jq4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 22:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a3855fbfe1a666be9aefba0563039ed5"; logging-data="21283"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Vaw3A07LDa4697XhBzBnd8yAecrw2hC4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <87oajl6jq4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Cancel-Lock: sha1:QYNd/OOZ/EonsYhjzWvLD0igVy4= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:26730 Date: 2015-07-09T15:55:27-07:00 List-Id: On 07/09/2015 03:37 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > > Would you say the same thing about making a bookshelf? Lots of people > make bookshelves with home tools and not much planning or engineering. > Cue the jokes about the million dollar bookshelves built by the US > military. The home tool approach is much quicker and more cost > effective and you get a perfectly usable bookshelf. So when does this bookshelf that doesn't need to be correct, robust, and reliable need to ship? This is a red herring. It has nothing to do with what we're discussing. > In construction terms, there's a spectrum ranging from "bookshelf" to > "suspension bridge" and civil engineering starts becoming important > somewhere in the middle of that scale. Engineering becomes important when the thing will be used by others. That's at least 99% of S/W. -- Jeff Carter "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Foundation 151