From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: newbie, Spark 2014 or Ada 2012 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 14:50:46 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <974c8db0-c9e8-49d4-8db1-3417ec49217b@googlegroups.com><87k2uenkcw.fsf@nightsong.com> <87615x9s3o.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87pp438tm6.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1436385047 19362 24.196.82.226 (8 Jul 2015 19:50:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 19:50:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:26702 Date: 2015-07-08T14:50:46-05:00 List-Id: "Paul Rubin" wrote in message news:87pp438tm6.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net... > "Randy Brukardt" writes: >> One could argue that if the use of a separate tool is needed to make >> the use of a language sensible, there's something wrong with the >> language design. (After all, why isn't that tool part of the >> compiler?) > > You could say the same thing about SPARK. I would! I'm not at all a fan of SPARK. It solves a problem in a way that is only useful for an elite few. I want to solve problems for all programmers (at least those that are willing to use Ada!). Randy.