From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ad19,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ad19,public X-Google-Thread: 11440e,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid11440e,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 107a89,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid107a89,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-06 14:07:27 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!news.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Pete Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.ruby,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml Subject: Re: Long names are doom ? Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:08:01 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <9f2nks$ibd$0@dosa.alt.net> <3B177EF7.2A2470F4@facilnet.es> <9f8b7b$h0e$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9f8r0i$lu3$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9fgagu$6ae$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9fjgha$blf$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <35mqhtkdfma2rggv1htcaq6vfn2ihs67a1@4ax.com> <3B1DF477.F47230B2@brighton.ac.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ruby:10435 comp.lang.ada:8264 comp.lang.awk:2830 comp.lang.clarion:21245 comp.lang.java.programmer:74197 comp.lang.pl1:825 comp.lang.vrml:3566 Date: 2001-06-06T14:08:01-07:00 List-Id: On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:14:31 +0100, John English wrote: >Pete Thompson wrote: >> Good terse: clear summary, concise, succinct. >> Bad terse: hidden, cryptic, magical. >> >> Good verbosity: descriptive, explanatory. >> Bad verbosity: tedious, rambling, long-winded. > >There are also many instances of "bad verbose" code where "bad verbose" >translates to "hidden, cryptic, magical", or even just plain stupid. >As an extreme example of this, I cite a past student of mine who >couldn't remember how to determine the length of a string, and resorted >to writing it to a temporary file because he knew how to find the size >of a file... :-( > Ouch. That's pretty sick. Still, I'd have to give him a couple of points for creativity :)