From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!gandalf.srv.welterde.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Build language with weak typing, then add scaffolding later to strengthen it? Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 16:54:01 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <127b004d-2163-477b-9209-49d30d2da5e1@googlegroups.com> <59a4ee45-23fb-4b0e-905c-cc16ce46b5f6@googlegroups.com> <46b2dce1-2a1c-455d-b041-3a9d217e2c3f@googlegroups.com> <3277d769-6503-4c7f-885f-3a730762b620@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rrsoftware.com X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1432936442 8510 24.196.82.226 (29 May 2015 21:54:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 21:54:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:26086 Date: 2015-05-29T16:54:01-05:00 List-Id: I wrote: > "Jeffrey R. Carter" wrote in message > news:mk29dv$l47$2@dont-email.me... > ... >> Anyway, if you took the ARM, got rid of all the things Oberon doesn't >> have, >> eliminated the precision of the definitions and any "unnecessary" >> verbiage, >> you'd probably end up close to Oberon's 17 pp. > > I think you could leave in most of the Ada features and still describe > them with that level of precision. The one sentence that J-P quoted could > replace the entirety of 4.9-4.9.1(5 pages). One probably could come up > with a similar description of visibility, replacing the majority of > Chapter 8 (16 pages). Shrink the fonts, eliminate the white-space, and > voila! About 17 pages. Besides, no one said anything about the page size. If we use coffee-table art book page sizes, and 6 point type, we can probably get the entire core RM in 17 pages without changes. ;-) > Ergo, the whole discussion is silly. Which is probably why we're having > it. :-) I couldn't have said it better myself. :-) :-) Randy.