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From: "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org>
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Subject: Re: Build language with weak typing, then add scaffolding later to
 strengthen it?
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:18:46 -0500
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On 5/28/2015 5:46 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:

> The problem is that
> if you think its hard to convince people to use Ada with all of its track
> record, try doing that with a new language with no record. So I don't think
> there would be much of a market for that.

If you mean it is hard to get people to get interested in
new language with no record, then how can one explain the
sudden popularity of many new languages such as swift, C# and
others like them when they first appeared?

They became popular from first day. Swift now is ranked 18 now
on http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
and it was released by Apple, what, less than one year ago?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_%28programming_language%29

More are using Swift now than Ada. And Swift has no track record
to speak of. But of course, it is from Apple, so this explains
all of this popularity. May be if Apple releases an Ada version for
the iPhone, call it "iAda" with GUI build in to make apps, then Ada
would become popular overnight :)

--Nasser