From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,7684e927a2475d0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: can one build commercial applications with latest gnat and other licenses related questions... References: <449660f0$0$11077$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1150717184.087134.177850@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151050924.969806.284410@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <449d2a28$0$11075$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <449d5c03$0$11074$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <014pyajqy5.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> From: M E Leypold Date: 24 Jun 2006 21:45:38 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.218.241 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1151177975 88.72.218.241 (24 Jun 2006 21:39:35 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.albasani.net!morpheus.pingos.org!news.szaf.org!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4996 Date: 2006-06-24T21:45:38+02:00 List-Id: M E Leypold writes: > Georg Bauhaus writes: > > > But we don't complain that makers of Free Software disallow use of > > their GPL tools and components for closed source software. If you > > need that, pay them, if you can. > > George, > > I know I'm not consistent, but I'd like to point you to > http://groups.google.de/group/comp.lang.ada/browse_thread/thread/3e26dfa741e64e5f/bbff925a8e74f167?lnk=st&q=Ada+Whalen+Dewar&rnum=4&hl=de#bbff925a8e74f167 Wrong post. The right one is: http://groups.google.de/group/comp.lang.ada/browse_thread/thread/24ac770ebf312b7a/e4fdf88d2a6768a6?lnk=st&q=Whalen+Dewar+happen&rnum=1&hl=de#e4fdf88d2a6768a6 I just happen to see that the "wrong quote" actually answers a posting by you. Since that didn't convince you then (you didn't answer on Steve Whalens comments), it probably won't convince you now. But please stop to imply that other people try to rip off ACT :-). If there is not enough community to get a commercially also-for-closed-source Ada environment (that means appropriate libs also) going, all the people that would want that will go elsewhere and there will be peace in c.l.a. If the community actually can get such an environment going and maintain it, the better. But now way are Gnat nor the libraries a one sided gracious gift of ACT to the unwashed masses. I acknowledge their contribution (I also acknowledge that the got paid for it). Another relevant quote is http://groups.google.de/group/comp.lang.ada/browse_frm/thread/2c7b0b777188b7c4/5a960e6166cc5f3a?tvc=1&q=Ada+Whalen+Dewar&hl=de#5a960e6166cc5f3a "if you weren't reading comp.lang.ada and following GNAT back then, please use Google groups and go back and read what the ACT/AdaCore people were saying back then. They took great pains to explain that exactly what they are now doing would be "bad"." I don't have the intention to revive that thread (please not). But what you accuse me of ("complain") seems to have been a pretty common occurrence some months ago and as it seems not all out of greed to get everything for cheap, but out of a rather different understanding of the implied obligations ACT had to the community. Regards -- Markus