From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,3f8570b76ae08638 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,3f8570b76ae08638 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: mheaney@ni.net (Matthew Heaney) Subject: Re: With the Real Engineers please stand up. Date: 1998/01/10 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 314875776 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <34b73885.5453328@news.thegrid.net> <34B717E8.45A8@dynamite.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: Estormza Software Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <34B717E8.45A8@dynamite.com.au>, aebrain@dynamite.com.au wrote: >Trevor Longbow wrote: > >> I remember some study that identified this: that engineering outfits >> typically operate at one of a set number of--I think it was 5 or >> 6--levels of optimum culture. I don't remember the terminology. As I >> recall, in the most suboptimal cultural state, everything is done >> ad-hoc. The culture practices anarchy on a daily basis (kinda like >> this new outfit). At optimum culture, an outfit has identity, clarity, >> organization, and method--plus some other set of positive engineering >> attributes. >> >> Does anyone know what it is I'm talking about--the study, the term, >> the book? The author of the CMM is Watts Humphrey. The CMM is described in Managing the Software Process Watt Humphrey There's a guide too: A Guide to the CMM Ken Dymond You may also want to read Jerry Weinberg's four-volume Quality Software Management series. The first one has a bunch of stuff about interpreting Humphrey's taxonomy of process maturity in terms of cybernetic theory: Quality Software Management Volume I: Systems Thinking -------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Heaney Software Development Consultant (818) 985-1271