From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Languages don't matter. A mathematical refutation Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:38:44 -0700 Organization: Also freenews.netfront.net; news.tornevall.net; news.eternal-september.org Message-ID: References: <87h9t95cly.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <04f0759d-0377-4408-a141-6ad178f055ed@googlegroups.com> <871tk1z62n.fsf@theworld.com> <87pp7kyh2r.fsf@theworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3f77efd256cd7097938236a53a6861ee"; logging-data="9643"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18eehFuM1Mrqm1612MEpuWY6RIcuqqAOAo=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <87pp7kyh2r.fsf@theworld.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:H9B8pWCSy9SzPsBwVenR21IIaIk= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:25407 Date: 2015-04-03T16:38:44-07:00 List-Id: On 04/03/2015 03:37 PM, Bob Duff wrote: > > I think putting "assembly and C" at the same "level" is absurd. > A C programmer doesn't do register allocation, for just one > example. C, Pascal, and Fortran seem more-or-less the same > "level" to me. And above that level, I think "level" ceases > to be meaningful. I can't accept as high level any language that requires, for a subprogram to be able to modify a parameter, that the parameter must be declared as a pointer and the caller must explicitly pass a pointer. FORTRAN, Pascal, and Ada, to name a few, don't. C does. -- Jeff Carter "My dear Mrs. Hemoglobin, when I first saw you, I was so enamored with your beauty I ran to the basket, jumped in, went down to the city, and bought myself a wedding outfit." Never Give a Sucker an Even Break 111